Why are ursans called tanks? - Guild Wars Forums

ajc2123 · Jan 15, 2008, 10:37 PM // 22:37

Ursans is more for damage, and yet everyone I know calls them "Tanks" and being a warrior, I know what a tank should be. 20 extra armor (at max!) and 100 extra health (compared to raven) + a 5 second weakened state to surrounding enemies just seems less of a tank compared to 30% block chance all the time, 10 seconds of blind to surrounding enemies (can't hitting is better then weakening in my book any day) with cripple and bleeding to help grab those attacking your back liners.

Yes raven does less damage overall, but is much more useful when you are supposed to be "tanking" Can't we call raven blessing tanking and ursan just....i dunno, big damage or something? Or am I missing something big that makes Ursan the better tank.

angmar_nite · Jan 15, 2008, 11:40 PM // 23:40

Blessings tank???? What???

Lady S Shiva · Jan 16, 2008, 12:16 AM // 00:16

tank needs more armor and health, ursan helps in this area
but raven on ranger might be better imo
and u can call them whatever u want, most of ppl run ursan way don't know shxt about tanking anyways.

Cherno · Jan 16, 2008, 01:38 AM // 01:38

A Tank is simply a term for a character, regardless of class, who can take a load of damage. If you think the only tanks are warriors, you still have much to learn. Many ele skills lead to effective tanking. Warriors, tend to be targetted as the primary because of their higher base armor and support skills.

In certain circumstances, rangers can be even better thanks as they have nearly as high a base armor, but also have additional inherent protection against elements that warriors don't have. As mentioned above, ele's skills can negate almost any damage if the right conditions are met, as with most other classes.

Some refer to tanks in general as the same as a warrior, regardless of what kind of build they are running. You just need to be sure to be more specific about what you are running rather than trying to fit it into a nice catchword. Just like a nuker can cause confusion. Some see "nuker" and that means an elementalist. While others have some very specific echo-MS nuke build in mind when saying it. Just avoid being lazy.

Now your specific question about the blessing. Ursan is probably the most effective "tanking" blessing because of the extra health and the ability to KD mobbed enemies. If you gather agro correctly, your extra health helps keep you up while the KD prevents the from running out of AoE, casting their own skills and just generally attacking. The others are nice, but are much more speciallized to the area. Generally blinding things doesn't make them as useless as KD. Casters don't care if they are blind usually, they care if they are interrupted though.

ajc2123 · Jan 16, 2008, 02:07 AM // 02:07

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Originally Posted by Cherno

A Tank is simply a term for a character, regardless of class, who can take a load of damage. If you think the only tanks are warriors, you still have much to learn. Many ele skills lead to effective tanking. Warriors, tend to be targetted as the primary because of their higher base armor and

Never said they are the only ones, I'm just saying I know how to.

Jan 15, 2008, 10:37 PM // 22:37	#1
ajc2123 Desert Nomad Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: North of the wall Profession: Me/	Why are ursans called tanks? Ursans is more for damage, and yet everyone I know calls them "Tanks" and being a warrior, I know what a tank should be. 20 extra armor (at max!) and 100 extra health (compared to raven) + a 5 second weakened state to surrounding enemies just seems less of a tank compared to 30% block chance all the time, 10 seconds of blind to surrounding enemies (can't hitting is better then weakening in my book any day) with cripple and bleeding to help grab those attacking your back liners. Yes raven does less damage overall, but is much more useful when you are supposed to be "tanking" Can't we call raven blessing tanking and ursan just....i dunno, big damage or something? Or am I missing something big that makes Ursan the better tank.

Jan 15, 2008, 11:40 PM // 23:40	#2
angmar_nite Jungle Guide Join Date: Feb 2007 Guild: [SNOW] of [YUM] Profession: E/	Blessings tank???? What???

Jan 16, 2008, 12:16 AM // 00:16	#3
Lady S Shiva Desert Nomad Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: CA Guild: LOD??? Profession: W/Mo	tank needs more armor and health, ursan helps in this area but raven on ranger might be better imo and u can call them whatever u want, most of ppl run ursan way don't know shxt about tanking anyways.

Jan 16, 2008, 01:38 AM // 01:38	#4
Cherno Forge Runner Join Date: Jan 2006 Guild: Stars of Destiny Profession: E/	A Tank is simply a term for a character, regardless of class, who can take a load of damage. If you think the only tanks are warriors, you still have much to learn. Many ele skills lead to effective tanking. Warriors, tend to be targetted as the primary because of their higher base armor and support skills. In certain circumstances, rangers can be even better thanks as they have nearly as high a base armor, but also have additional inherent protection against elements that warriors don't have. As mentioned above, ele's skills can negate almost any damage if the right conditions are met, as with most other classes. Some refer to tanks in general as the same as a warrior, regardless of what kind of build they are running. You just need to be sure to be more specific about what you are running rather than trying to fit it into a nice catchword. Just like a nuker can cause confusion. Some see "nuker" and that means an elementalist. While others have some very specific echo-MS nuke build in mind when saying it. Just avoid being lazy. Now your specific question about the blessing. Ursan is probably the most effective "tanking" blessing because of the extra health and the ability to KD mobbed enemies. If you gather agro correctly, your extra health helps keep you up while the KD prevents the from running out of AoE, casting their own skills and just generally attacking. The others are nice, but are much more speciallized to the area. Generally blinding things doesn't make them as useless as KD. Casters don't care if they are blind usually, they care if they are interrupted though.